Rosa Reine Victoria or Mme Pierre Oger?

Sorry I can't help with the name but it is lovely.

There's a great site on the i'net that I have visited and I tried to find it again to give you the address...I think I googled "old French roses"... they had page after page of photos with names. Will keep looking and I'll post the address on here...if I ever find it again!

http://www.rose-gardening-made-easy.com/antique-rose-garden.html

The above website has some good info and lovely photos of older varieties of roses. You might like to take a peek, Resi (at least until Lori locates the link to the site she found previously).

www.heirloomroses.com/roseinfo/travels-1993oldrosegardentour.htm

Hi! I've been looking and enjoying myself very much but not sure that this is the exact site I saw before, regardless, this is an amazing site with lots to see and read...

thanks Wlass en Lori, that is really helpful. i will have a look around them as i have a few more dubious specimen coming on.
so far i have used this site a lot
http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/plants.php

what did we do before the internet.... wear animal skins and live in caves maybe???

lol@Resi....the internet just opens up the world to us....it's great. I'm still in the dark ages a bit when it comes to all this techi stuff....but I'm getting there!

Pleased the links are helpful to you.

Agreed!...when we first moved and I had no internet I experienced a peculiar feeling of being cut off from the rest of the world...Imagine that? I've grown used to talking to people half the way around the world from me and thinking nothing of it... Here we are comparing notes on roses! How wonderful. Know what you mean about the techi side of things, W'lass, and I have a feeling that I'm learning more about it...which is even more amazing...who says you can't teach an old dog new tricks???lol....(speaking strictly for myself there...)