Can I grow grapes outside in the UK on a south facing wall? If so what variety?
It depends where you live Suejean, if you are in the south of England yes. Otherwise you will need the vine to be in an unheated greenhouse. Oh and welcome to GoY
26 Mar, 2011
I planted the variety 'Brandt' last year ... outdoors beneath a canopied pergola ... there were abundant tiny grapes in the first year. Buds appearing now. Hope this helps. Oh, I'm way down South!
I live in the greater London area and have a vine outside my south facing conservatory. I do not remember the name of the variety but it is not very good to eat. I do not know whether other varieties can do better. I only grow it for the leaves.
You might be lucky in a very hot summer to get decent grapes if they're in full sun, assuming you've done all the necessary pruning and thinning out, but there's no denying you get a much better crop if under glass, even in the south.
'Black Monukka' is one of the hardiest kinds, may be worth a try.
27 Mar, 2011
Hi Sue, a south position is ideal of course so well worth trying one of a handful of varieties. Some years will of course be better than others.
I would recommend:
Strawberry (also called Fragola)
Lakemont (seedless white).
We have a big Vine along our veranda canopy about 25 years old. It produced an amazing crop last year of sweet black grapes Pinot Noire, London area. The Mistle thrushes finished them off and appeared to be ? still nesting somewhere nearbye still, but the starlings bully them! It is pruned back to a 30 foot bare stem at the end of November. The autumn leaf colours and shading it provides, is a huge bonus too.
I hesitate to mention this, because I know it wasn't true in the North last summer, but we had some very decent weather last year - long, very warm dry periods here in London - which probably accounts for your good, sweet crop Dorjac.
Our neighbour has a vine in her greenhouse which usually give her a good crop of grapes - last year they didn't ripen...
Yea, sorry, MG, I know your summer wasn't great last year, didn't want to rub it in that we had a pretty good one, lol!
Ach makes no odds, point being, for me, that growing grapes outdoors is risky most years - even in the south. The English vineyards struggle some years.
I think the secret with our grape is it is mostly under a polycarbonate canopy, which gives it a beneficial microclimate and keeps it warm and maximises sunlight.
28 Mar, 2011
Probably... they can cope with a bitterly cold winter but do need heat in summer to ripen.
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