Is this one of the honeysuckles?

Hi Milky definitely not clematis... leaves don't look right for honeysuckle to me but I'm happy to be corrected.

Seed heads are very wrong for Clematis. Cannot off hand think of any Honeysuckles(Lonicera) with serrated leaves like that either.

Milky, pretty certain it's a spindle berry, although someone might think differently.

I'd agree Doctorbob, the seedpods are quite a distinct shape on the euonymus family

yes i thought spindle berry too. but dont know which one.

Thanks Doctorbob, Andrew, and Seaburn.... Had a look and you are right....Definately a Spindleberry.

As an addendum, are the leaves alternate or opposite?

The closely related genus to Euonymus that are twining climbers is the genus Celastrus. I only ask this as you enquired if it was a Honeysuckle? It's definitely either one of the Euonymus or one of the Celastrus. The leaf position will tell you which as their fruits are very similar.

ps the leaves of Euonymus are in opposite pairs up the stem. Celastrus leaves alternate and generally the stem has a distinctive twining habit.

Oooh Fractal I have just checked and they are alternate.......Thankyou so much.....now I know which it is

Milky, STOP PRESS!

I have looked more closely at the seed heads and now think that they are a type of Ceanothus!

It looks to be one of the larger leaved, deciduous types though as opposed to the more familiar evergreen types.

C. 'Marie Simon' looks to be a good bet. The leaf veination is a perfect match too.

Get there in the end!

Fractal....have googled Ceanothus marie simon, but I cant find a pic close up enough to confirm it. If it is, I shall be really pleased, but may have to wait til next year now to find out. Thankyou for you effort anyway....Lol