following this as intrigued to see what it is, as it looks like a young tobacco plant (quite a round leaf when new) perhaps with a virus?

looks like milk thistle !!!

Looks like a thug!!!!!

Well it has hairs on it if thats any help?

Silybum marianum is what I think too.

A picture on Wiki would agree with that, although it also describes milk thistle as annual/biennial.

Well I am glad I followed this as it was an interesting one. Is it still a thug to avoid?

I rather like them, but they do not survive in our garden, so not a thug here.

As an annual/biennial it would not be a thug unless it was allowed to self-seed everywhere; then watch out!